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Not talking to al-Qaeda 'silly'

Pooka
03-17-08, 04:11 AM
Security minister Lord West has said it would be "silly" to have no communication link whatsoever with terrorist groups such as al-Qaeda.

His comments back Jonathan Powell, Tony Blair's former chief of staff, who said that the UK should talk to al-Qaeda.

The Foreign Office has described the suggestion as "inconceivable".

However, Lord West said that any communication should be done on a "very careful, secret level" but he rejected the idea of formal talks.

Lord West said: "To say that there should be no link at all through any strange back source, back route into anywhere would be silly - but that's done on a very careful, secret level really to find out what they're up to.

'Secret channels'

"I think to actually get into dialogue with people who at the moment don't seem to have any aim other than causing mass casualties, no clear way ahead, I think would be wrong - and I don't believe we're doing that at the moment to the best of my knowledge."

Mr Powell, who initially raised the debate, was one of the key negotiators for the government in reaching a settlement in Northern Ireland during Mr Blair's time at Number 10.

BBC political correspondent James Hardy said Mr Powell now believes that deal would not have been possible without secret channels being opened to the IRA three decades earlier.

A Foreign Office spokesman said: "It is inconceivable that Her Majesty's government would ever seek to reach a mutually acceptable accommodation with a terrorist organisation like al-Qaeda."

In November last year, Lord West denied being forced to change his mind on extending terror detention limits. In an interview, he told the BBC that he had yet to be convinced of the need to extend the 28-day limit.

Just over an hour later, after a visit to Downing Street, the minister said he actually was convinced of the case.

Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7299888.stm)

Myggz
03-17-08, 04:28 AM
They used to try and ignore the Irish problem as well...

What a difference when the wee Mowlam actually said in different words from mine.. " Whats the problem here.. just say it as it is.. what can we do to sort it.."

rather than all that political shit that says nothing but breeds contempt..

Not that some didn't try before.. but shut up to save their political careers..

Mo had a life ending disease.. she was just trying to do her politial best in a situation she was able to.. feck the consequences..

McGuinness and the Rev in the same room..

and Mo beating the disease and ending up at the bottom af a stair..

A conspiracy..

pshaw..

a legacy...

mmmm..

Myggz
03-17-08, 04:30 AM
Anyone know how to talk to those people that are the so called threat to us today..

Don't be shy now..

Don't feel intimidated..

Myggz
03-17-08, 04:41 AM
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Mr Powell, who initially raised the debate, was one of the key negotiators for the government in reaching a settlement in Northern Ireland during Mr Blair's time at Number 10.

BBC political correspondent James Hardy said Mr Powell now believes that deal would not have been possible without secret channels being opened to the IRA three decades earlier.

A Foreign Office spokesman said: "It is inconceivable that Her Majesty's government would ever seek to reach a mutually acceptable accommodation with a terrorist organisation like al-Qaeda."

In November last year, Lord West denied being forced to change his mind on extending terror detention limits. In an interview, he told the BBC that he had yet to be convinced of the need to extend the 28-day limit.

Just over an hour later, after a visit to Downing Street, the minister said he actually was convinced of the case.

Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7299888.stm)

Secret...

Says it all really..

I remember Mowlam teling the media who'd been at meetings and what they were discussing..

I was in Europe at the time though and it was broadcast on European news with follow ons in the UK media on the front page..

T'was something I followed being an ex squaddie and a wife of at the time.. and a lapsed cathilic and a Scottish person... ..

In the words of Stephen Hawking..

"All you have to do is.. keep on talking.."


From the man with no voice.. pshaw..

Jantheman
03-17-08, 06:00 AM
Stephen Hawking is indeed a smart man. His disease has taken his voice. When it come to talking to Al-Queda they do not have the same quality of life as we do. They can not possibly know what it is like to live without pest or varmits, diseases, famine, or any of the good life that we here in the States have. Do I want to kill them? No, not at all. Why would they want to kill us? What good will it do? People work hard here for what they have. You don't want to work, you will have nothing. Do they seriously think they will gain world power? How about world chaos? No civilization at all.

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