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Pooka
03-16-08, 07:40 PM
The age of electronic communication has allowed a hammer blow against privacy, Clive James writes, but even the last bastion, the humble letter, is under threat.

Let's begin, where British madness so often begins, in London.

London's mayor Ken Livingstone has an aide who has recently been busted sending amorous e-mails to a friend. The aide, known in the tabloid press as "Ken aide", has a few questions to answer about what he has been doing with some of the money entrusted to him.

No doubt he will give satisfactory answers, and I, to name only one, will realise that my council tax cheque has been put to good use under his guidance.

But he will find it harder to shake off the accusation that he has been writing besotted e-mails, because the Evening Standard printed them verbatim. Andrew Gilligan, in charge of that newspaper's investigations into Ken Aide's activities, can congratulate himself that he has caught Ken Aide red-eyed with lust, if not red-handed in malfeasance.

But I wonder if anyone else should be congratulating Mr Gilligan. Isn't there something wrong about helping yourself to the private e-mails of politicians, the private text messages of footballers, the private phone calls of... you fill in the blanks.

And to the contention that nothing is private for the prominent, shouldn't we be saying that privacy is for everyone, and not just for you and me?

To say that, however, you have to believe in private life as a value. I think most of us still do, although it may very well be true that a private life is becoming impossible to lead. But just because it's fading from existence doesn't mean that it was never vital.

Linguistic assault

Private life is an institution, like the English language, which is collapsing too, and proving, even as it falls to bits, that it's a structure our lives depend on.

Ken Aide's friend, prominent in that official field of race relations which is now known as community cohesion, has been quoted as saying: "I see a time when race policy will only be actioned with the sanction of committees."

There could be no clearer evidence that the English language is in a bad way. But I got that quotation from something she published, not from one of her e-mails. If she had said it in an e-mail it might well have raced Ken Aide's motor, but as far as I know she didn't. And as far as I know is, I think, quite far enough.

Most of us are capable of grasping that if everyone could suddenly read everyone else's thoughts then very few people would survive the subsequent massacre, which would effectively bring civilisation to an end. If you were living alone in a cave, you might just stay alive until the following morning, but only if you were in there alone.

To live in society at all, we have to keep a reservoir of private thoughts, which, whether wisely or unwisely, we share only with intimates. This sharing of private thoughts is called private life.

Until recently, the concept of private life was basic to civilisation. Its value could be measured by the thoroughness with which totalitarian states and religions always did their best to stamp it out. But now we have to face the possibility that the latest stage of civilisation might also be trying to stamp it out.

Tabloid basement

You can still keep your thoughts to yourself - nobody has yet invented a machine that can get into your head and broadcast what it finds - but if you try to communicate those private thoughts to anyone else you run an increasing risk that they will be communicated to everyone.

It doesn't matter who you are, if you are conspicuous enough in public life and use a mobile telephone to transmit a private secret then you might very soon see it printed in the newspapers.

You probably remember that when this actually happened a few years back, the press coverage was endless. But I can't remember a single feature article which raised the question of whether the printing of an intercepted private phone call was not in itself far more startling than any secrets that might have been revealed.

Partly this was because the press, taken as a whole, had already reached the conclusion that everything was grist to its mill. The British press, even its tabloid basement, could be worse. On the whole it leaves the children alone. But one way or another it will print anything it can get about an adult. What has changed, in recent years, is the range of what it can get.

There was a limit to what it could do with letters sent through the post. It couldn't steam them open. In the reign of the first Elizabeth, her chief spy Walsingham routinely opened every letter that entered or left England, but that was early days. If the press wanted to do that now, it would have to steal letters faster than the post office can lose them.

Secret police

With the arrival of the mobile telephone, things got easier. I can well remember, late in the last century, a senior executive of one of the big press conglomerates trying to impress me at some reception or other by saying that he had, in his safe, transcripts of mobile phone calls that would rock the monarchy on its base.

He seemed very proud of himself, but for a moment I realised what it must be like to be face to face with the head of the secret police in the kind of country where only the police have secrets.

Things have moved on since then. No transcript stays in the safe for long, and now there are e-mails to draw upon. It's been said that nobody sensible confides to an e-mail anything that he wouldn't be prepared to see published in the newspapers, and this might indeed be so.

But it could equally be said that nobody sensible puts his money in a bank that might be robbed. There are identity thieves robbing banks every minute of the day without even having to pull on a balaclava. Unless we keep our money under the mattress, we have to trust the bank, which might be hard to do, but would be even harder if the bank-robber could not be classified as a criminal.

Pinching private phone calls and e- mails ought to be a crime, but somehow it isn't. And it probably won't be. There are too many laws as it is; too many of the new laws are useless; and a law against printing anything you can find would probably be seen as an infringement of free speech, even though the unrestricted theft of private messages amounts to an infringement of free speech anyway.

After the Ken Aide e-mail incident hit the headlines, some commentators were quick to note that if you really want to speak freely in private, the thing to do is write an old-fashioned letter.

Swiftian absurdity

Few of these commentators noted that their suggestion came at the very time when Post Office (TM) - TM because it is no longer the Royal Mail but is now a business - is proceeding with its plans to close somewhere between 2,500 and 3,000 post offices.

Most of these post offices slated by Post Office (TM) for destruction are in rural areas. In other words, they serve small towns and villages that are hard to get to, which you would have thought was the very reason why the people in them need to write and receive letters.

The Post Office's rationale for this further truncation of its already abbreviated service reaches a height of absurdity which Jonathan Swift would have hesitated to scale, lest his readers stop laughing and reach for the arsenic. The Post Office says that it all costs too much. The losses, it says, are "unsustainable".

But sanctions against people who use words like "unsustainable" should be actioned by committee. You will immediately spot that Post Office (TM) is speaking the same new language as Ken Aide's friend. The post office, before it was hobbled with its trademark, wasn't a business, it was an institution.

An institution is something without which civilisation itself is unsustainable. It could be said - no doubt the Post Office has a management layer in which such things are said full time, as a prelude to their being actioned - it could be said that the old ladies in the villages, who will no longer meet each other at the post office after it is turned into a community cohesion centre, could always send e-mails.

They need never leave the house. After all, they've had plenty of practice since Dr Beeching was deputed to annihilate the railway service on the same grounds: unsustainability.

And there is always a good case for leaving the village behind, if you don't mind waiting for a bus. GK Chesterton used to argue that the best reason for moving to the city was that in a village everybody knows your business, so you couldn't lead a private life.

He'd find it hard to say the same now. You can be in the biggest city in the world, and every phone you pick up, and every computer you sit down at, is a direct pipeline to universal publicity for any thought you dare to express.

Plato would have been envious. He devised a legal body called the Nocturnal Council, but if its members suspected you of impiety they only wanted to discuss it with you for a few years. And Plato never dreamed that his hideous Republic could be established except by coercion.

We seem to be volunteering for ours. But nobody has invented a mind-reading device yet, although I have noticed that some of the latest mobile telephones are small enough to crawl into your ear.

Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7296856.stm)

MostlyHarmless
03-16-08, 08:28 PM
No crap. Did England borrow the Carnivore tech. from the US?

Myggz
03-17-08, 02:41 AM
The program that I've been watching here in the UK called "The Last Enemy" has.. for me.. been of interest not because of the storyline of the program.. ( as always with some middle eastern so called threat that is actually... No.. watch it yourself and see ).. but.. the underlying reality of such a Big Brother state that is almost ..if not already apon us..

Those that can see what the future holds.. can no longer use their indignant assed vote to make a real change.. The "progress electronically" is changing life all over the planet..

I remember... way back in my day... (cough..) watching a theater group called "7/84"

It meant that 7% of the population held 84% of the wealth in Britain.. and the plays they put on reflected that to a Workers/Labour/Socialist audience..

Now.. I don't think wealth matters.. It's information and fear that matters.. Technological control of populations in certain areas of politics and government..

Money is losing it's grip in the west because we're dependant on outside resources.. and the west fears because they realise the ball gripped situation they're in they've allowed to happen as they rely on resources from areas they have no control over..

World recession my arse.. Only certain countries that've sold their assets n debts will feel a short sharp shaggin up the "YER PWNED" ATM hole in the wall..

They're picking on the wrong people.. There is no wrong people to pick on.... They shouldn't be in power..

The pain in the butt thing is.. there are no alternatives.. The pure bullshit I see here in UK politics is feckin abysmal.. The pure bullshit I see in American politics is feckin abominable..

As a wee Jock twat.. I hope the States folks understand me why I wanna dump the alliance we "seem" to have cos of yer feckin arsehole gaffer.. Mr brains of a shrubbery.. ( now that you got that eeeejit Blah there.. can you keep him please...... )
and try and hang around with in some way if they'll let us.. our european neighbours that are a few air hours closer to us..

Your gubmnt makes me feel like I'm the sidekick to such bad behavior that the actions of...are gonna have such long reaching consequences to.. on so many levels..

Thank feck us people are not subject to the rules of our so called feckin politicians....


.... or are we...

MostlyHarmless
03-17-08, 03:05 AM
Hell, 7/84? In America it's more like 3/98.... Sucks to be us.

Myggz
03-17-08, 04:01 AM
innit.. yer economys feckt.. I have no agenda aginst US folks.. none at all... We're in the same place sorta.. but we aint got all our eggs in one basket...

I think..

I feckin hope..

Myggz
03-17-08, 04:07 AM
I do understand when there is a recession that war was an answer and a moneymaker to boost an economy in the past..

It's not like that anymore and where we are ecconomically proves the point..

A war was thrown... feckin unnecessisarily in my view.. we're skint..

Lesson or what..

Jantheman
03-17-08, 05:00 AM
The value of the dollar is at a new low. The Euro is much more stable than our currency right now. It is all about oil. $110.00 a barrel oil is causing $4.00 a gallon diesel here in the Midwest. OPEC does not want to raise production. Inflation and recession all at the same time. War is big business, especially if you are a wartime supplier of weapons, munitions, or anything needed for war. Gold has went over $1000. 00 an ounce. My wife and I make great money, but we end up supporting our daughters by subsidizing their needs. That's needs, not wants. Food, utilities, car repairs that come up in the normal course of life. "W" is on his way out. Hopefully, things will be better no matter who gets in office next. Lesson learned? Time will tell.....

Myggz
03-17-08, 05:35 AM
a litre here in the UK costs almost £1.09 or $10.62 per gallon..

What would Americans say to a price like that Jan.. Not $4 a gallon.. $10.5 a gallon.. most of that in gubmnt taxes I have to add..

Ya'd have to do what we try and do on a reasonable income... stop using the feckin stuff and with our utility prices that are just as expensively ridiculous.. ya have to .... stop using the feckin stuff .. or put a feckin thick jumper on and walk..

As a wee small country that thought it had a say.. we can't afford to do stuff we don't have the resources to back up..

All our finances are tied up or owed to other countries.. Our national debt is aparently more than we can produce..

Not a lot of us know that though.. well.. not the ordinary people anyway...


innit...

Jantheman
03-17-08, 06:50 AM
I am very conscious of the amount of energy that I use. I built a new home with the best insulation I could get, the most efficient furnace I could get and energy efficient appliances available. Some of my neighbors do not share my "GREEN" attitude. Waste not, want not. We have a hybrid and two small four cylinder cars for our transportation. It has went to my daughters, in that they look not necessarily for the best, but the most efficient. My one neighbor has three Suv's and I know they don't fill them up for cheap. At $10.50 a gallon for petrol in your country, it would cost me $120 to $130 a week just to drive to work(!). At $3 a gallon, it was costing me right at ten cent per mile for fuel alone. Come on with the electric cars, so we can get off this oil merry-go-round.

Myggz
03-17-08, 08:21 AM
Unles you are an indusry we got feck al lto say about global warming..your personal footprint is so minimal it can't even be logged..

but the powers that have page space try and make it look as if we're responsible.. and make us pay .... when we aint..

and the big industry that uses up resources.. are wondering why they're losing the money and control..
#

It is about resources.. amd those of us with a clue.. are getting a grip... a very small grip.. while those countries that think they dont have to give a shit... aint..

we're getting taxed to feck so we have to think about what we can afford as a country.. as is europe to a lesser degree..

who's telling you Americans.. or/amd the new powers in Asia to get a feckin grip...

No - one.. becauese ya think it's never gonna end... Oil is gonna end.. why d'ya think it's so expensive.. laterally and literaly..

MostlyHarmless
03-17-08, 06:12 PM
As soon as my leg is all better I intend on getting some type of motorcycle for summer use. 50mpg (for a freakin' Harley)... Can't pass THAT up. Plus, they're fun. My last bike had SEVERE electrical issues... Like 2 of the 4 cylinders would kick out (stop working) randomly, and then (When you've got the throttle full-bore just to maintain speed) they'd f'n kick back in and you'd scream forward at whoever was in front of you. Not good. I bought that bike from my dad for $900, and sold it right back to him for the same price.

Jantheman
03-17-08, 08:31 PM
50 mpg is great MH. What kind of bike was giving you problems? Also, unless its a newer Harley, it can still give you problems. I am looking at a bike that a guy bought a new bike and wants to unload his 26 year old Honda. It still runs, still shines. Maybe good for just puttering around the neighborhood. Will have to talk Mom into letting me get it. Or a new laptop.....(G)

MostlyHarmless
03-18-08, 05:48 PM
It was a Honda Sabre 750 V-4. Lots of electrical widgets on it.

Jantheman
03-18-08, 11:50 PM
Thats an awesome motorcycle. The few I have encountered were fast and smooth. Sure it ain't got carb problems? Most of the older Honda bikes collect gunk or varnish in their fuel bowls, which creates all kinds of problems. New jets and check the tank for rust might solve your problems.

MostlyHarmless
03-19-08, 12:55 AM
Nope. My dad put a new brain-box (read:computer) in it, and I guess it runs fine now. It was still a bit uncomfortable to ride though (it was an '82), because you had to hold all your weight on the handlebars, so I'll get something more comfortable this time. Hell, I might just get an enduro (because they're light as hell).

Jantheman
03-19-08, 02:17 AM
I'll be darned, it had a computer? They are still cool bikes. Hope you get the bike you really want. I had a Vulcan 800 for a little while, smooth and comfortable. Reliable as an anvil. I got ran off road twice in the same year, so I did not want to meet my maker before my time. Sold it and I still miss it, and that was eight years ago. I always had a bike until my first child was born. Could not see them growing up without their Dad being there for them.

MostlyHarmless
03-19-08, 06:26 AM
PS: Sorry for Hijacking your thread, I keep doing that. I'll try to do it less, but my mind is always spewing random crap at me. Still, I'm sorry

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