Airmen have been told to avoid leaving an RAF base in uniform amid fears they could be abused by civilians.
Officers at RAF Wittering fear that residents of nearby Peterborough who oppose UK involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq will taunt servicemen.
Although military staff are encouraged to wear uniform in public, a local decision was made against doing so in the city, the Ministry of Defence said.
Cambridgeshire police said they did not know of any abuse reported in the city.
A spokesman for RAF Wittering said staff from the base had reported incidents of abuse "up the military chain of command".
He said acting on advice from RAF police, the station commander had then taken the decision that staff should not wear uniforms off-site.
Defence Secretary Des Browne said: "We must defend our forces' right to wear their uniforms in public.
"It is a great shame that some individuals in this community don't respect our forces - who are daily doing a great deal for this nation.
"This is not a situation we should tolerate. We learned about this today and are investigating it as a matter of urgency.
"I hope that by working closely with Peterborough City Council and the local police, service personnel at RAF Wittering will soon be able to wear their uniforms freely about the town with the support of the local people."
RAF Wittering was established in 1916 and more than 2,000 servicemen and women are based at the station, which is best-known for housing a fleet of Harrier jump jets
Air Chief Marshall Sir Glenn Torpy, said: "Whatever people's views are about specific military operations, everyone should be able to recognise the bravery and professionalism of our Armed Forces and respect the difficult job they do."
Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cambridgeshire/7282348.stm)
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Climb into my handbasket, I am heading for Hell
I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
5O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
5But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,
5The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
5O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.
I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
5For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
5But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
5The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
5O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.
Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
5Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
5But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
5The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
5O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.
We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
5While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",
5But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,
5There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
5O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind.
You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
5For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
5But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
5An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
5An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!
Rudyard Kipling
(Born December 30, 1865, Died January 18, 1936)
Uncle_Max 03-07-08, 02:55 AM I always wondered what the people who taunt servicemen and women are thinking. I'm no fan of the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan, but it's certainly not the fault of those fighting the war. And how do you think it feels for somebody who's putting their life on the line (for a cause that they themselves might not be 100% in support of) to be told that what they're doing is wrong or foolish? They need support and the knowledge that whatever public perception of a military action may be, the community still stands behind their sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, husbands, and wives who are out there on the front lines.
Jantheman 03-07-08, 01:03 PM My Dad was in the Air Force for over twenty-five years. He never had anybody taunt him for being a career serviceman. If anything, he got better treatment than the normal civilian would. People that would do such a thing should realize that without these humble men and women giving of their time and lives, we all would not have the freedom that we all enjoy. If they would not have done what they did, we might all be speaking German or Japanese.
If they would not have done what they did, we might all be speaking German or Japanese.
Amen to that sentiment.
I'm hoping to have all you Mofos speaking Pookanese soon...
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Jantheman 03-07-08, 02:02 PM Amen to that sentiment.
I'm hoping to have all you Mofos speaking Pookanese soon...
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I think that we are starting to make that true. I am really beginning to understand Pookanese better every day. Thanks Pooka.
Uncle_Max 03-07-08, 06:10 PM My arse et a trucated grundel, yet held twixt fey and Robert Conrad.
not bad, eh?
mAVERICK1 03-08-08, 02:25 AM I echo your sentiments Max. If people have an axe to grind then take it to the people who made the decisions i.e. The Government of the day. The servicemen and servicewomen are merely following the orders of their political masters. If they didn't then they'd be in military prison.
"War is an extension of Politics".
pvtpile 03-08-08, 02:54 AM Yeah never got any bad treatment when I was in. Unless you count faceless cowards ont he internet. But to my face never.
MostlyHarmless 03-08-08, 07:05 AM I always salute *properly* to men and women in uniform. Then I use the sign language "thank you".
Uncle_Max 03-08-08, 07:32 AM I feel weird saluting, since I've never been in the service myself. But I tend to buy them a drink or at least say thank you.
If they would not have done what they did, we might all be speaking German or Japanese.
This has already been said...41 years ago ! ;)
"Si les ricains n'étaient pas là
Vous seriez tous en Germanie
A parler de je ne sais quoi
A saluer je ne sais qui
Bien sûr les années ont passé
Les fusils ont changé de mains
Est-ce une raison pour oublier
Qu'un jour on en a eu besoin
Un gars venu de Géorgie
Qui se foutait pas mal de toi
Est v'nu mourir en Normandie
Un matin où tu n'y étais pas
Bien sûr les années ont passé
On est devenus des copains
A l'amicale du fusillé
On dit qu'ils sont tombés pour rien
Si les ricains n'étaient pas là
Vous seriez tous en Germanie
A parler de je ne sais quoi
A saluer je ne sais qui"
Michel Sardou,1967
Pookanese..
It's what my RSM's n Crowns spoke..
Would these twunts make funny with a uniform that says (SHOUTS..))these kinda things
"I was in uniform when you was in liquid form!"
"The only sympathy you will find in the OC's office is in his dictionary - between sh!te and syphilis- lefrilefrilefrileft- HALT"
Get your feet in my in-tray
"I'll put you where the crows can't sh!t on you"
"Did I touch that hat? Did I touch it? Somebody fetch
me the disinfectant!"
"Look at you! You're all covered in fluff and dust and
dandruff.....and budgie crap !"
"You waste of rations, you ignominious biped, you...
you... you cnut, you !"
RSM : "YOU, LAD !"
Pte : "Me Sir?"
RSM : " No... but you'll do.. Five extras!"
"As you were......and if you weren’t, get there....NOW!"
"Pack that shit in before i rip your arms off put them in your ears and ride you like a mountain bike"
"Are you trying to smuggle buffalo in that jumper"
PTI
"ladies, do you want a rest??"
RECRUITS
Yes, Staff!!
PTI
good good, PRESS UP POSITION DOOOOOOWN!! ... UP down, UP down, Halfway up ... ... .. hold it there ladies ..
DS to recruits ....
"You are on Gods golden acre and (noticing drill instructor arriving) f*** it, here comes God".
"Only two people walk on this grass, ME and GOD and only god walks on it because I cant see him or else I would Fukkin charge him".
"I'm gonna stick this pace stick up yer arrse and flick you up to the guardroom!"
"Cross me again and I'll nail you to it!"
"How fcuking daaaaaaaaaare you!!!" Shouts a particularly nasty Welsh Guards RSM while looking up to the sky and shaking his pace stick. The wind had just blown his cap off.
"You shaggin imbecile!! You belong in the Salvation Army not this shaggin Army!!"
"Well F*@king done........Right Grid Square ........Wrong Planet"
CPL right lads get your gortex on
CROW why cpl?
CPL cause i dont want you to suffer my little cherub
CROW but you dont have yours on
CPL listen fcuknuts I'm an NCO in the British army, I'm Bomb proof, bullet proof and fcuking water proof! now put it on before I test your gag reflex with my co.ck!
"If you don't get in step I'm going to bend the flag pole over, stick it up your ar*e and ping you back to where you came from".
"You need to get to the QM's and change your tw*t hat. In fact go via the med centre and change your tw*t head first".
"Did you spend all evening ironing all those creases into your trousers or have you got corrugated legs".
How very dare they...
"Did you spend all evening ironing all those creases into your trousers or have you got corrugated legs".
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"How fcuking daaaaaaaaaare you!!!" Shouts a particularly nasty Welsh Guards RSM while looking up to the sky and shaking his pace stick. The wind had just blown his cap off.
Heard by me on Gods Ground, R.W.F, Workshops, Tidworth, By Saisbury Plain.. BFPO 8008135..
On hearing a tanky had been injured getting shot off a tank and leaving a leg inside the machine on a Medman exercise in Canada..
"What size boots he got ..??".. !! :-)
Jantheman 03-10-08, 04:37 AM This has already been said...41 years ago ! ;)
"Si les ricains n'étaient pas là
Vous seriez tous en Germanie
A parler de je ne sais quoi
A saluer je ne sais qui
Bien sûr les années ont passé
Les fusils ont changé de mains
Est-ce une raison pour oublier
Qu'un jour on en a eu besoin
Un gars venu de Géorgie
Qui se foutait pas mal de toi
Est v'nu mourir en Normandie
Un matin où tu n'y étais pas
Bien sûr les années ont passé
On est devenus des copains
A l'amicale du fusillé
On dit qu'ils sont tombés pour rien
Si les ricains n'étaient pas là
Vous seriez tous en Germanie
A parler de je ne sais quoi
A saluer je ne sais qui"
Michel Sardou,1967
From babelfish translation which may need correction, Che.
"If the yankees were not there
You all would be in Germania
Talking about I don't know what
Saluting I don't know who
Of course the years passed
Rifles changed hands
Is this a reason to forget
That one day one needed for
A guy who came from Georgia
Who didn't care about you
Came to die in Normandy
A morning when you weren't there
Of course the years passed
We became shot buddies
A the friendly shot
One says that they fell for nothing
If the yankees were not there
You all would be in Germania
Talking about I don't know what
Saluting I don't know who ":flash:
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