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Executed in U.S. may be awake as they suffocate

philemmons
04-24-07, 06:21 AM
(AP) -- The drugs used to execute prisoners in the United States sometimes fail to work as planned, causing slow and painful deaths that probably violate constitutional bans on cruel and unusual punishment, a new medical review of dozens of executions concludes.

Even when administered properly, the three-drug lethal injection method appears to have caused some inmates to suffocate while they were conscious and unable to move, instead of having their hearts stopped while they were sedated, scientists said in a report published Monday by the online journal PLoS Medicine.

No scientific groups have ever validated that lethal injection is humane, the authors write. Medical ethics bar doctors and other health professionals from taking part in executions.

The study concluded that the typical "one-size-fits-all" doses of anesthetic do not take into account an inmate's weight and other key factors. Some inmates got too little, and in some cases, the anesthetic wore off before the execution was complete, the authors found.

"You wouldn't be able to use this protocol to kill a pig at the University of Miami" without more proof that it worked as intended, said Teresa Zimmers, a biologist there who led the study.

The journal's editors call for abolishing the death penalty, writing: "There is no humane way of forcibly killing someone."

Lethal injection has been adopted by 37 states as a cheaper and more humane alternative to electrocution, gas chambers and other execution methods.

But 11 states have suspended its use after opponents alleged it is ineffective and cruel. The issue came to a head last year in California, when a federal judge ordered that doctors assist in killing Michael Morales, convicted of raping and murdering a teenage girl. Doctors refused, and legal arguments continue in the case.

the article runs on, and on here (http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/04/23/lethal.injection.ap/index.html)

philemmons
04-24-07, 06:23 AM
....bring back the Guillotine...
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njohnson747
04-24-07, 08:45 AM
If there is no "one size fits all" does of anesthetic and some inmates need more I say why not give 'em more. Give them a boatload of that stuff. Give it to them so that it doesn't wear off, doesn't work slowly. Supersize the dose and sleep easier at night if that's what it takes.

Don't get me wrong: it's not that I want to keep them from suffering - rather I would hate to have them miss their date with the Devil because of this legal argument. What - is this deadly injectable junk expensive? I don't think it is (or that it matters anyway). Shoot 'em so full of that shit that it runs out of their eyes if that's what it takes to put them down quickly, the "humane" way.

We've all seen beloved pets get put down the "humane" way. If it was good enough for my cat Buster then it's good enough for some rapist killer.

pvtpile
04-24-07, 08:50 AM
Am I the only one that doesn't see a problem with this?

Two words. Plausible Deniability

silverdooty
04-24-07, 11:50 AM
Who really gives a fuck if they suffer? If it is incredibly painful and doesn't kill them the first time let's do it again and again. If they have gotten to this point of the game they have proven they are not humane and do not deserve any type treatment afforded life-respectful beings. Fuck all those against death sentences.

What is good for your loving and adoring pet is not good for the man who just raped and killed your mother, sister, grandmother, girlfriend. They don't deserve the same respect.

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