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Iran 'seizes' 15 British sailors

Jon
03-23-07, 05:28 PM
buckle your seat belts, grab some popcorn...


"We've been assured from the scant communications that we've had
from the Iranians at the tactical level that the 15 people are safely
in their hands," he said.

The British defense ministry said that it was pursuing the incident "at
the highest level."

There was no immediate comment from Iranian officials.

Lambert said the British sailors had been on a "normal, routine boarding"
of a vessel that had aroused suspicions as it navigated the Shatt al-Arab,
a disputed waterway that marks the border between Iraq and Iran on the
shores of the Persian Gulf.

British military patrols have been given authority to board vessels in Iraqi
waters under United Nations mandate and with the permission of the
government in Baghdad.

He said the captain of the merchant vessel had been cleared to proceed
and the two British inflatable patrol boats were readying for departure
when they were surrounded by the Iranian navy and taken into Iranian
waters.

Lambert said there is "absolutely no doubt in my mind" that the marines
were in Iraqi waters. But, he said, "The extent and the definition of territorial
waters in this part of the world is very complicated... We may well find, and
I hope we find, that this is a simple misunderstanding at a tactical level,"
he said.

"There hopefully has been a mistake that's been made, and we'll see earl
clarification and early release of my people."

Lambert added that the marines were doing critical work, "protecting the
oil platforms to ensure the economic future of Iraq."

He described the Iranian navy as "a multi-headed organization" that generally
stays within its territory doing its business, "and we stay inside Iraqi territory
doing our business."

The British defense ministry said: "We are urgently pursuing this matter with
the Iranian authorities at the highest level and on the instructions of the
Foreign Secretary, the Iranian ambassador has been summoned to the Foreign
Office.

"The British government is demanding the immediate and safe return of our
people and equipment."

CNN's Aneesh Raman in Tehran said there had been no mention of the incident
on Iranian TV and calls to officials had not been answered.

It was not immediately clear where in Iran the British personnel were taken.

There was a previous similar incident in 2004, when Iran stopped three British
boats and seized eight sailors and six marines.

The Iranian Foreign Ministry said at the time the three boats had crossed into
Iran's territorial waters. The detained servicemen appeared on Iranian
television blindfolded. They were released after Iran said it determined they
had mistakenly crossed into Iran's waters.

Britain, the United States' main ally in Iraq, has a large military presence in
southern Iraq, based out of the Shatt al-Arab port of Basra. A senior British
Army officer on Friday accused Iranian agents of paying Iraqi militia to carry
out attacks on coalition forces around Basra.



SOURCE: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/03/23/iran.uk/index.html

moonman
03-23-07, 05:33 PM
Somebody will get a good old slap in the dick over this. Might be all the US wants to go to war with these fuckers. Who knows anymore?

njohnson747
03-23-07, 05:41 PM
I seem to recall that the American Embassy was stormed by similar loose-knit forces in the late '70s. Remember the hostages the Iranians took then? It took all manner of back-channel negotiations to get those hostages freed. That freedom came over one year after they were taken prisoner (as memory serves).

I hope those guys are being well-treated and are released very, very soon. If not, well, Iran should get ready for an unfriendly visit from the Special Air Service.

The British and the U.S. are such tight allies that President Bush will definetly take this personally (as is his nature). If someone pisses on Tony Blair's shoes then it's splattering on his too as far as NATO foreign policy is concerned. Buckle up and prepare for the ride, indeed.

philemmons
03-23-07, 05:49 PM
stupid iran is just asking for a fight. I dont believe great britian will sit back and do nothing either.

tamsnod27
03-23-07, 06:23 PM
YIKES! This doesn't bode well...

Jon
03-23-07, 06:45 PM
yup Brittish marines, couldnt think of a better catalyst, good for stringing together UK public support and/or giving the government the excuse & as allies we're good for some good'ol US involvment....but, of course it'll have nothing to do with anyone...

Pooka
03-23-07, 08:14 PM
They will lick the feet of the Most High CorkToucher...
There will be a nailing and a washing of feet...
Planes are right now bombing Isfahan with Black Pudding...
The Spirit of Arthur Mullard is stirring...:newburn: :fly:

moonman
03-23-07, 08:17 PM
Yea good point Jon. I would not be the least bit surprised to know that the marines are in US custody so we can have a "good" excuse to start another war. Bush is an animal. We need to mark more teritory. Maybe once we start a civil war in Iran the democrats can pull us out of everywhere, down-size the military, and get all out asses killed? Who know with the US anymore?

Jon
03-23-07, 08:27 PM
democrats aint got that taste of war money yet...

philemmons
03-23-07, 08:52 PM
The most ominous detail about Iran's seizure of 15 British Royal Marines in the Shatt-al-Arab waterway on Friday morning is that the servicemen were reportedly taken into custody by the navy of the Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). The IRGC is a powerful, separate branch of the Iranian armed forces. Soaked with nationalist ideology, it has grown into a state within a state in Iran, with its own naval, air and ground forces, parallel to official government institutions. The IRGC is directly controlled by Supreme Leader Ayatullah Ali Khamenei, the ultimate font of religious and political power in Iran. The IRGC also has its own intelligence arm and commands irregular forces such as the basij — a voluntary paramilitary group affiliated with President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad — and the Quds force, which has been accused by the U.S. of supplying material to Iraqi insurgents bent on killing American soldiers. The IRGC is also known for its clandestine activities including logistical support for militant organizations like Lebanon's Hizballah, which it helped to set up in the 1980s, and several Shi'a militia groups in Iraq. The IRGC's activities are often a thorn in the side of Iran's Foreign Ministry, which is forced to repair the ruptures in Tehran's diplomatic relations with countries the Guard has inflamed with its self-directed adventures. Nevertheless, it has been one of Iran's main instrument in projecting power and influence over the last few decades.

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Ablekaak
03-23-07, 10:36 PM
yeah! what pooka said.. ?!?!

Hyperx
03-24-07, 01:54 AM
President Hyperx orders a full scale nuclear assault on those mother fuckers cause Brits are our peeps.... fuck em all if they wanna be like that!

philemmons
03-24-07, 04:57 PM
President Hyperx orders a full scale nuclear assault on those mother fuckers cause Brits are our peeps.... fuck em all if they wanna be like that!

Hyperx for Emporer of the Known Universe!!!!


hehe...

blackspy
03-24-07, 05:15 PM
There was a mention on the news regarding the strategic timing of such an arrest of the British officers, since the UN was to vote today on further sanctions in Iran. Iran could be hoping to gain some additional leverage by have these guys as prisoners. Who knows...

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