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Houses cheaper than cars in Detroit

mr_wiggles
03-21-07, 02:38 AM
DETROIT (Reuters) - With bidding stalled on some of the least desirable residences in Detroit's collapsing housing market, even the fast-talking auctioneer was feeling the stress.

"Folks, the ground underneath the house goes with it. You do know that, right?" he offered.

After selling house after house in the Motor City for less than the $29,000 it costs to buy the average new car, the auctioneer tried a new line: "The lumber in the house is worth more than that!"

As Detroit reels from job losses in the U.S. auto industry, the depressed city has emerged as a boomtown in one area: foreclosed property.

It also stands as a case study in the economic pain from a housing bust as analysts consider whether a developing crisis in mortgages to high-risk borrowers will trigger a slowdown in the broader U.S. economy.

The rising cost of mortgage financing for Detroit borrowers with weak credit has added to the downdraft from a slumping local economy to send home values plunging faster than many investors anticipated a few months ago.

At a weekend sale of about 300 Detroit-area houses by Texas-based auction firm Hudson & Marshall, the mood was marked more by fear than greed.

"These people are investors and they know the difficulty of finding financing. They know the difficulty of finding good tenants. They're cautious," said realtor Stanley Wegrzynowicz, who attended the auction.

HOW LOW IS LOW?

The city, which has lost more than half its population in the past 30 years and struggled with rising crime, failing schools and other social problems, largely missed out on the housing boom that swept much of the country in recent years.

Prices have gained less than 2 percent per year in the five years since 2001, when the auto industry entered a renewed slump.

Steve Izairi, 32, who re-financed his own house in suburban Dearborn and sold his restaurant to begin buying rental properties in Detroit two years, was concerned that houses he thought were bargains at $70,000 two years ago were now selling for just $35,000.

At least 16 Detroit houses up for sale on Sunday sold for $30,000 or less.

A boarded-up bungalow on the city's west side brought $1,300. A four-bedroom house near the original Motown recording studio sold for $7,000.

"You can't buy a used car for that," said Izairi. "It's a gamble, and you have to wonder how low it's going to get."

Detroit, where unemployment runs near 14 percent and a third of the population lives in poverty, leads the nation in new foreclosure filings, according to tracking service RealtyTrac.

With large swaths of the city now abandoned, banks are reclaiming and reselling Detroit homes from buyers who can no longer afford payments at seven times the national rate.

Michigan was the only state to see home prices fall in 2006. The national average price rose almost 6 percent but prices slipped 0.4 percent here, according to a federal study.

The state's jobless rate of 7.1 percent in January was also the second highest in the nation, behind only Mississippi.

HOW MUCH CAN YOU BUY FOR $1 MILLION?

Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick was greeted with applause when he announced last week that two condominiums in the city's revitalizing downtown sold for over $1 million each.

But investors, including some from out of state, proved far more cautious at Sunday's auction.

In the most spirited bidding of the day, a sprawling, four-bedroom mansion from Detroit's boom days with an ornate stone entrance fetched just $135,000.

Dave Webb, principal at Hudson & Marshall, said Michigan had become a "heavy volume" market for his auction firm in recent years, although bigger-money deals were waiting in California, a market he said was ready for the first such auctions of repossessed property in years.

"These people that are buying have got to look at holding on for five to seven years," he said. "The key is holding power."

Even with the steep discounts on Detroit-area properties, some buyers handed over their deposits with a wince.

"I'm not sure it's congratulations," said Kirk Neal, a 55-year-old auto body shop worker who bought a ranch in the suburb of Oak Park for $34,000. "My wife is going to kill me."

Realtor Ron Walraven had a three-bedroom house in the suburb of Bloomfield Hills that had listed for $525,000 sell for just $130,000 at the auction.

"Once we've seen the last person leave Michigan, then I think we'll be able to say we've seen the bottom," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070319/ts_nm/usa_subprime_detroit_dc;_ylt=AtQmbLun3rW_.DSiIm6cp h8DW7oF

pvtpile
03-21-07, 02:57 AM
Holy fuck! It's time to jump ship!

Atomicoxygas
03-21-07, 03:01 AM
tried moving to India or China perhaps? /sarcasm

silverdooty
03-21-07, 12:46 PM
well here in aspen the house i'm building is only $50mil

tamsnod27
03-21-07, 01:50 PM
Yeah, see, the problem isn't the house, it's the fact that it is in freakin' Detroit! I have been in some bad parts of town in my day, but Cripes on a Cracker, you don't even want to slow down in some parts of Detroit!

Atomicoxygas
03-21-07, 03:24 PM
Yeah, see, the problem isn't the house, it's the fact that it is in freakin' Detroit! I have been in some bad parts of town in my day, but Cripes on a Cracker, you don't even want to slow down in some parts of Detroit!


Cross the river into the land of ganja land and enjoy some canadian weed ....:bluntsmile:

Jantheman
03-21-07, 08:28 PM
Yeah, see, the problem isn't the house, it's the fact that it is in freakin' Detroit! I have been in some bad parts of town in my day, but Cripes on a Cracker, you don't even want to slow down in some parts of Detroit!I agree Tam, I have been thru there and I just wanted to go faster and faster. Very, very scarey. Some neat old homes but they can keep them.

mr_wiggles
03-24-07, 03:48 AM
Yeah, see, the problem isn't the house, it's the fact that it is in freakin' Detroit! I have been in some bad parts of town in my day, but Cripes on a Cracker, you don't even want to slow down in some parts of Detroit!

pussy :D

CJ
03-24-07, 04:26 AM
Fuck this shit, I'm moving to Detroit! They're figuring the average house prices here to go up at least another $100,000 by December, and condo's to go up by over $150,000. I'll deal with a fairly similar horrendously designed city plan and rampant corruption amongst the cops and major corporations, it'll feel just like home!

philemmons
03-24-07, 05:06 PM
"...Cripes on a Cracker..." :wtf:

Rev
03-24-07, 06:50 PM
Sissies.

I'll be waiting for CJ

mr_wiggles
03-24-07, 07:27 PM
Fuck this shit, I'm moving to Detroit! They're figuring the average house prices here to go up at least another $100,000 by December, and condo's to go up by over $150,000. I'll deal with a fairly similar horrendously designed city plan and rampant corruption amongst the cops and major corporations, it'll feel just like home!

correct sir...lots of investment opportunity...



Iraq is like Detroit or Chicago, says US Rep.
By Circles Robinson*

Tim Walberg, a Republican legislator from Michigan, stated this week that most of war-torn Iraq is about as dangerous as some neighborhoods in Detroit or Chicago.
The first term Congressman who grew up in Chicago made the comment to support the Bush administration’s claim that progress is being made in a war the President says can be won.
"Well, in fact, in many places Iraq is as safe and cared for as Detroit or Harvey, Ill., or some other places that have trouble with armed violence that takes place on occasion," Walberg told the press.
"People are walking around communities [in Iraq] as safe as they are walking around - at the very least - in Detroit and Chicago and other places," he said. "As in any major city, there are hot zones, as in the country of Iraq...”
Walberg’s spokesperson Matt Lahr furthered the comparison with Iraq. "Soldiers have expressed optimism to the Congressman about the safety and security of the majority of Iraq."
http://www.periodico26.cu/english/opinion/iraq032407.htm

I would like to invite a night on the town of Detroit to this mr_Tim Walberg and show this uninformed and scared republican a night on the town.Its not that bad as long as your not a fricken idiot....only the strong survive i was once told...here it can be true.

silverdooty
03-25-07, 03:42 AM
nice read wiggles. no one ever accused a public figure of being bright. i don't think walberg would survive anywhere

philemmons
03-25-07, 06:23 AM
I was thinking about buying one for when I retire...

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