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Would You Eat Food From Cloned Animals?

OurPrecious
10-18-06, 09:19 PM
Oct. 18, 2006 — The Food and Drug Administration said Tuesday it was moving closer to approving meat and milk from cloned animals, and some consumer groups are outraged.

Although it sounds like science fiction, in the very near future, milk and meat from cloned animals could be as close as the corner store.

Since Dolly the sheep, the first mammal to be successfully cloned from an adult cell, sheep, cows and pigs have been cloned for research and breeding.

"We are not convinced that this is safe food," said Jaydee Hanson, program director for the Center for Food Safety. "We haven't seen the facts that would convince us."

A recent poll conducted by the Pew Initiative on Food and Biotechnology shows that 60 percent of Americans are uncomfortable with the idea. Most cited religious and ethical concerns, followed by safety.

While the FDA asks food producers to voluntarily keep copied animals out of the food supply, Dr. Stephen Sundlof, chief of FDA veterinary medicine, said in a statement this type of food was safe.

"Meat and milk from cattle clones and their offspring are as safe as that from conventionally bred animals," he said.

But many people told ABC News that they would eat food from cloned animals only if it were clearly marked.

But cloned food may not be labeled. Experts said it would be too difficult to separate meat in processing plants derived from clones.

"It's very possible that these products will end up on grocery-store shelves without any specific labels identifying them as having come from cloned animals," said Michael Fernandez, executive director of the Pew Initiative on Food and Biotechnology.

It is estimated that there are only between 600 and 2,000 cloned animals in the United States.

The FDA could approve this as early as next year when its final safety report is expected. The food could be on grocery-store shelves shortly thereafter.



http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2580885&page=1

vegasitguy03
10-18-06, 09:27 PM
Yummy!!!

innominate
10-18-06, 09:53 PM
what, couldn't be any worse than soilent green or tofu... tasty!

OurPrecious
10-18-06, 09:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/mip7hqvKpqM

HelplessLlama
10-18-06, 10:11 PM
I can't remember the snack names from Oddworld... the one's they were grinding the Mudokens into.

And back on topic, what's the big deal about eating cloned meat? It's just like any other meat. Does this mean you wouldn't eat veal that came from artificially inseminated cows? I doubt it.

innominate
10-18-06, 10:16 PM
There are are a lot vegtables out there that is cloned... and actually, most of the weed you smoke out there is cloned too. It's how they keep consitant strains. Figured I should let y'all know.

PiratePoet
10-18-06, 10:27 PM
As long as they got the DNA and RNA sequences corect for the cow to taste like cow... yeah I'd eat it and then I'd have some more.

OurPrecious
10-18-06, 10:29 PM
I'd rather them do some really freaky stuff, like make celery taste like chicken, and brussel sprouts take like filet mignon

th3n00b
10-18-06, 10:30 PM
I'd eat it, but only if ourprecious fed it to me.

OurPrecious
10-18-06, 10:36 PM
http://austin.about.com/library/clipart/cows/fsl0693.gif

moonman
10-19-06, 02:22 AM
id eat it

they should clone a goat for the noob. that one he has now is WAY due for a vacation. It would be just like the real thing.

satman
10-19-06, 03:04 AM
much ado about nothing....

its the same fucking animal......morons don't know what cloning it...thats the problem....

lotm
10-19-06, 03:22 AM
yeah a steak is a steak...damn I'm hungry. I'd eat an entire cloned cow right now

pvtpile
10-19-06, 03:22 AM
If I pay less for a Rib Eye FUCK YEAH!

lotm
10-19-06, 03:28 AM
If I pay less for a Rib Eye FUCK YEAH!

O hell yeah! Didnt even consider that..!:thanks:

Atomicoxygas
10-19-06, 04:05 AM
so wait ... picture this. basically, say there is only one main "source" pig. Then they clone it. The source becomes pregnant and gives birth to itself.

the clones will then be feed by the mother source pig. and then the next set of clones will be manufactured feeding off the first set of clones.

so the cycle continues and then you have the whole species tumbling into chaos theory governed by fractal patterns.

fook ... i'll never eat a clone.

Warni
10-19-06, 04:22 AM
Seems to me they would have to do a lot more long term research before I eat a cloned steak. I dont want to wake up some day with a third eye in the back of my head, just because I ate cloned steak.

FauxReal
10-19-06, 04:26 AM
There are are a lot vegtables out there that is cloned... and actually, most of the weed you smoke out there is cloned too. It's how they keep consitant strains. Figured I should let y'all know.

That's a totally different kind of cloning...

The term clone is used in horticulture to mean all descendants of a single plant, produced by vegetative reproduction or apomixis. Many horticultural plant cultivars are clones, having been derived from a single individual, multiplied by some process other than sexual reproduction. As an example, some European cultivars of grapes represent clones that have been propagated for over two millennia. Other examples are potato and banana. Grafting can be regarded as cloning, since all the shoots and branches coming from the graft are genetically a clone of a single individual, although the root systems may be genetically different for each grafted plant. Other important horticultural cloning methods are cuttings, tissue culture, layering and storage organs, such as bulbs, tubers and corms. These are genuine examples of cloning in the broader biological sense, as they create genetically identical organisms by biological means, but this particular kind of cloning has not come under ethical scrutiny and is generally treated as an entirely different kind of operation.

Many trees, shrubs, vines, ferns and other herbaceous perennials form clonal colonies. Parts of a large clonal colony often become detached from the parent, termed fragmentation, to form separate individuals. Some plants also form seeds asexually, termed apomixis, e.g. dandelion.

Mojo
10-19-06, 04:26 AM
yeh why not, if it taste like food, its food...

mr_wiggles
10-19-06, 04:29 AM
after spending time in mexico i will eat anything....

Fl_Gulfer
10-19-06, 05:16 PM
Who cares... All my shit looks cloned so I guess it dosen't matter what I eat.

Lavane
10-19-06, 05:17 PM
HMMMM..... does this mean an animal could be blessed and all of its clones would for ever be kosher???? hmmm???? i ask you.

CoffeeAngel
10-19-06, 06:29 PM
If it means only a billion of the same cow has to suffer rather then a billion different cows having to suffer, lets go for cloning. Who cares anyways, a chicken breast looks like a chicken breast, and ribs look like ribs. My stoumach doensn't discriminate :)

Zeddicus
10-20-06, 06:10 PM
How about organs from cloned humans? Where is the line to be drawn, and should it be?
The movie "The Island" addresses this concern quite succinctly.

CoffeeAngel
10-20-06, 06:47 PM
Well cloned organs from a human could serve a purpose rather than being eaten. If we are able to clone organs, we might finally be able to fulfill the huge list of transplant patients that are going to die if they do not get a new liver or heart. I know that pigs hearts have been used as transplants, but for 90% of animals, this does not work with humans. As well, eating humans now is still frowned upon and is quite illegal, where as eating organs from animals in some cultures is very common and are said to bring health. There's a fine line for most people in this type of disscussion and I feel like it could be just as hazardous to talk about this as it is trying to convince LV that god is a gay pole dancer. I hope you see what I'm talking about :P

HelplessLlama
10-20-06, 06:47 PM
We're not talking about cloning people, we're talking about cloning food to make it more readily available.

Unless kids in 3rd world countries are starving because they survive off eating eachother's internal organs, I think that's a non-issue.

Fl_Gulfer
10-20-06, 07:35 PM
Clone People to eat the Cloned Animals

HelplessLlama
10-20-06, 08:30 PM
Clone People to eat the Cloned Animals

:lol:

OurPrecious
10-20-06, 08:32 PM
Clone People to eat the Cloned Animals

Good God, that almost Zen

FauxReal
10-21-06, 01:04 AM
I'm apposed to people mucking about with what I eat on a genetic level. You can eat cloned food if you want... I just want it labeled as such. I'm not 100% certain they can clone food and know they didn't mess something up by accident that might affect me. Like the wierd DNA found in a strain of GM soybeans (http://www.biotech-info.net/DNA_surprise.html).

Also, I'm apposed to bio-engineered food in principal because of companys like monsanto who patent engineered food and attempt (http://www.nelsonfarm.net/issue.htm) to control markets (http://www.i-sis.org.uk/MonsantovsFarmers.php) with it (http://www.ebfarm.com/News/NewsStories/SeedPirates011405.aspx).

Also there are problems (http://www.organicconsumers.org/monsanto/lawsuit090805.cfm) with ]cross contamination ([/url). Because plants grown in nearby farms will polinate others via winds.

Even if it's thier products that contaminate other people's crops (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/779265.stm).

MASTERV
10-21-06, 05:30 AM
Compaired to what were eating now, it should hurt us much more. Besides all the chemicals will kill us long before the mutations have a chance to start.

HelplessLlama
10-21-06, 05:42 AM
Nothing is being altered on a genetic level.

Cloning is taking an egg, replacing the DNA in the egg with the DNA of a parent (whatever you want to clone), letting it grow until it's an established blastocyst and then implanting it in a mother.

There is NO genetic change, and nothing to stimulate a genetic change (it's called cloning for good reason -- you make clones (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/clone)).

DarkHelmet
10-21-06, 06:29 AM
I want tomaco, and square watermelons so they can be stored more easily, buffalos with tiny wings, and a cow with a layer of bacon all around it!!!

Ablekaak
10-23-06, 10:53 PM
clone me a ribeye dammit!!!

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